YA: The Cesspool

 Yes, because when I was 10 I needed "Diversity." Riiight.

When I was in my teens, (13-17) I read COYA books, Goosebumps, The Hobbit. James and the Giant Peach, and Narnia.

They didn't contain sex, sexuality (From what I remember) or more "adult" themes like R-rated stuff, nudity, extreme violence, things like that. Those books were geared to kids. Or teens. Modern YA isn't made for 13-17 anymore. It's pretty much GoT when it comes to themes but has more Love Triangles everywhere. Based on what I can see of samples. Or 1 or 2 star reactions from parents. 

• Kids should just be Kids.
• Imho: 15+ is when parents need to sit them down and talk about intimacy and sex. Not the school, from the parents. 
  

This vid gets the basics down and why I avoid YA. Its made for 40 year old women. Plus even people with certain sympathies are getting tired of it.

 

More and more things want pre-teen kids looking into their sexuality. Its disturbing to me. And to most people I imagine. I think people get venerability and flaws mixed up as well.

I think YA in general has effected my biases against teen protagonists.

Gonna keep discussing the defects of YA. You can defend it if you want but I find that sub-genre lacking because of who it really targets rather than a way to get actual kids to read more. I am glad I grew up when I did, at least I had good shows, books and other media to feed my mind.

YA is cringe because its being used as a vehicle for Adults to relive X Y or Z. (Imho) Just look no further than Dead IP land. 

And now I know why people say just talk and don't worry about showing your face. People aren't there to see your face, they want information about whatever wheelhouses they enjoy.

Literature vs YA mentality 

*wheezing* 

See? Why must they put that in a ridiculous amount of YA when you can make an Adult Romance book with happy relationships? That's what I am doing with Uplift Protocol, its not YA. Its A superhero space opera. With all sorts of adults in healthy stable relationships where they trust each other.

Ill link Uplift Protocol, still have 2 more issues to prep then the last 4 of Book 1 will be done. Only reason I am doing this is because some people said I should link it more often. XD 

Start of Book O: https://bit.ly/3bJ986L

Links to Books that I enjoyed as a kid as an initial setup:

• Narnia
• Goosebumps 
• Hardy Boys
• Nancy Drew 
• COYA books
  

YA and Erotica Tropes

 I have to get this out of me. Plus stuff linked below that I enjoyed.

 

With YA: 

• Love Triangles
• Self Insert "For the Reader to Take its Place" Protagonists
• Not Like Other Girls. GTFO, just make a character dammit. But it gets molded by levels of wish fulfillment, power fantasy, which turns into Sue/Stu mashups if not handled properly. 

Erotica:

• Dont turn an Urban Fantasy like Early Anita Blake into an STD fuck fest.
• If people make fun of men writing about boobs and butts Ill make fun of women going all super sized dick member monsters ala Anita Blake. No one's dick is over a foot in length. Not possible. 
• More people should fade to black. I know I will with Uplift Protocol
• Most Erotica by Women focus mostly on IKEA level Sex. Its not alluring whatsoever.
• At least the Harem Erotica to Men have some sort of plot attached.
  

 As long as a story has likable protagonists, an interesting setting, even with some aspects I don't personally agree with, then I'll give it a look. 

Unless its pedo shit, nuke that from orbit. Nuke Anita Blake from Orbit as well. Anita of Book 1-4 would be horrified at what her later self would become. If you want to make a smut series, do that from the onset.

Being sensual is different from IKEA junk. So if you have a character being a femme fatal to get things, that I can understand. The Pulps had that plenty of times. Even stuff like Basic Instinct. I can understand. Because even Total Recall had that with the women in spades. Thing is, those movies knew what deadly women really were and a woman vs woman fight is more fair. They are each in the same weight class. 

Sci fi can negate some physical issues of men vs women but sometimes its just more satisfying to see the good woman vs the evil one and good fucking bitch-slaps the evil out of the other.

 

Links:

• SoulBound
• Twilight Templar (Plays up Harem for Humor but does it with respect.)
  
• Advancing Peril  
• Honor Harrington 
•  Night Terror  

Edit: OMG, the lesbo romance series was written by a guy and I loved it to bits. Turns out Mia Archer is his pen name. Nice. See? Men can write women just fine.  CJ writes awesome women too. In fact all the stuff listed above does well. Go tip them coffees.  

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