Showing posts with label Genre Tags. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Genre Tags. Show all posts

Thursday, September 3, 2020

Genre and Trends


We need to establish a curation of books we like as readers. Its easy for some stuff we enjoy to get lost in the endless battle of mis-categorization of tags and the like on amazon.

Erotica, in harem or floating ab format, outpaces many other genres in volume and overall placing at the table. Because its so numerous it gets a large portion of eyeballs on it. Ghost writers and the like keep the same 100 series and writers in the top charts on amazon. Because that orange tag is the only thing that means something to them.

Many social sites have more writers per capita than readers so even some bigger accounts of 10k + people give the same recommendations most times. Its like everyone has a megaphone shouting over one another. Even tagging doesn't help too much.

Alternate sites like Minds et all dont have as much activity either. Sure I can find some new things on there but my little Twitter account still gets more engagement than most other sites I am on. With social stuff that is.

Hubs:

In the next few days I'll put together a preferred Superhero Prose hub of books I've read and enjoyed that have most of what I am looking for besides Uplift Protocol. That way I can link back to that page in particular.


Saturday, May 9, 2020

Genres, again.

I dont know if this is just my pet peeve but if you have a book. Say you list it as sci fi. But its 70% romance. Then its not sci fi romance, its romance sci fi. I know it sucks, since romance is bloated and over packed but you have to list it where it really goes.

If it has supers but is mostly romance, its romance with supers.
If it has urban fantasy but mostly romance, its romance with supernatural powers.

Again, don't throw your book into alternate tags and with a mis-leading cover. Just in an attempt to bypass the bloated giant that is ROMANCE. Its why YA is in the triangle hell. Its why I wont touch 80% of "Urban Fantasy" because most of it is NEW STYLE DOG PILE Anita Blake waiting to KO my palate with absolute shit storytelling.

I think that's why I also shy away from certain things unless like minded readers say, "Hey, this thing isnt romance in cloaked form, give it a looksee. If I want a bodice ripper, ill be able to find one easy enough. But actual fantastical fiction? Its getting overrun. There's so much out there esp with PARANORMAL romance that its like Anita Blake's retarded cousin on stage.

At least one of my favorite Romance Sci Fi series actually lists its books where it should go and the cover isn't misleading at all, I know exactly what I will get: Here's the series!




Even the reviews point blank will tell you. Mad respect, she sold her series well in a bloated category. That's what you will face with ROMANCE PRIMARY. Its just a fact. Stop throwing your IKEA specials into my space opera or hard sci fi or military sci fi because you decided to sprinkle 20% of your setting into that hole.

Maybe Amazon should make more Romance tags.  Because as a reader, I want to be able to pin point what I really want to read easier. I want to be able to bypass the god awful amounts of romance to find specific types of fantasy or sci fi. I wish I had a way to shift all those books out of the way for a session or two so I can find what I want buried under mountains of trash.

I do mean trash in a pretty literal sense. Most IKEA romance books are exactly that to me. They are all about the physical and hardly build up the actual relationship. I am burnt out on that shit. Mightly. Aren't couples, in a healthy relationship, supposed to be each other's willow of a sorts. More then just the physical, they are each other's closest friend. Sticking through thick and thin. Good and bad times. Lots of romance just lives on the overall drama llama and hardly developed these characters. What makes them a good fit besides boning each other into the sun?

I dont mind sensual or even some sexual scenes. But very few can pull it off. With any kind of tact.

I wont personally write stuff like that in my own series. IE its going to be mostly fade to black. If I had to rate what I will have in there romance wise, It would be PG-13. Maybe some on screen kisses and the like but do I really want to explore what they do in the bed room? Not really. Ill leave that up to imagination.

But mad props to people who can put it in and make it remain sensual and bring that couples love for one another to the forefront without it becoming gaudy.

IF I was amazon Id add in these tags:

  • More Romance Sci Fi tags (space opera, sci fantasy, sci paranormal, ect)
  • Romance Fantasy
  • Romance Harem
  • Romance Reverse Harem
  • Paranormal Romance with another 10 sub categories (IE Cat People, Wolf People, ect. Theres a metric fuck ton of shifter BS.)
  • Romance Alpha Whatever 
  • Romance Steampunk
  • Romance Victorian
  • Romance Gay
  • Romance Lesbian
  • Romance Parody
  • Romance Military Sci Fi 
You get the idea. Its so prevalent I am loosing my fracking mind. Its gotten to the point that if any blurb has this is ROMANCE X with Y Strong Female Protag that I just tune it out. Everyone wants to put some sorta Bella Swan into whatever setting nowadays in the hopes of earning that mithical 1 million + dollar book funtimes. Blarg!

Heck, some of these travesties put their books in stuff like American Studies, Historical Fantasy X, African Fiction Whatever because the field is so over saturated. Its a feat when a new writer can hope to breach 100 copies sold.

I think even the Ebook market will have its reset shortly. There's just so much one and done stuff on there that its bound to happen.

I'm gonna add more to the https://superhero-fiction.com/ page to help. Its interesting that smaller outlets have more varied slots to make sure you find what you are looking for.





Tuesday, February 4, 2020

Genre Placement: An Amazon Mis-Adventure.

The more I look into the genre labels/tags on Amazon, the more I realize its not just my Superheros that are having issues finding readers due to the pull of "PLEASE NOTICE" this book over millions to gain a livable wage on writing vs genuine genre gems getting buried underneath.

I can empathize to a point. I know most want to get 6 figures writing full time. To play bills but on the other end of it: I want to read books, learn how to put stories together so my own series will have a decent enough development, but abusing the algorithm wont help in the long run. What happens when that fad dies down? Will most jump ship to the next "hot" genre?

If I could, I'd love to make additional genre specifications: Actual Tabs, not subcategories.

  • Main Genre: Lit RPG, subcategories: Sci-Fi, Fantasy, MMO, Base Building, Harem, Reverse Harem.
  • Main Genre: Harem/Rev. Harem, Subcat: Sci-Fi, Fantasy....ect. 
This is not to hurt those types of books but to get them situated in a category unto themselves because its so prevalent. So popular that it tidal waves out other books.

Romance also needs an overhaul. If your primary theme is romance, don't put it in Westerns or Occult or Self Help. Not all Genres are a giant umbrella. Pick a primary and work with that.

When I finally get my books ready to publish, they are going Primary Superhero(SciFi and Fantasy) with the 3rd Genre being Space Opera. Then Ill try to pin point my descriptors to pull in the genre readers.

If your book has the whole Alien Lover angle, then that's Romance. Primary Romance. Please be kind and put that book there instead of mainline sci fi. Its so genre readers can find your books quicker.

I think key words are messing with the searches too. Like if you have a super soldier character, dont list it as superhero. Or as cyberpunk. Unless its a part of an expanded universe that has actual caped crusaders in it. Enhanced doesn't automatically mean it should be placed in certain categories. Look at the actual setting you have.

I'm mainly going about this as a reader. To help other readers and writers understand the frustration of not being able to find a book you truly want to read. The only reason I've been able to find some of the books I want is because of blogs and twitter links to those blogs.

Plus I wanted relief from books that just wanted to preach to very specific topics that I just wanted to escape from. So where does one go for that? Across the Internet, find the writers that want to have fun, then go for broke. Give them the coffee they need to keep going. In general, from the looks of it, most indies have this spirit. Some in trad still do but its not as prevalent as it used to be.

Be the Ball of Fun. Tell the stories of times past. There's a reason stuff like Dune still sells like hotcakes.

If Clawson hadn't been going on about the issues he had with Wheel of Time, then I would have never found his lovely book. Go here to have fun: Pulpy Good Fantasy

IF you are writing in a popular genre like UF or Para Romance or Romance in general, it sucks but you are already fighting in a bigger more popular arena. Purposefully mis-labeling your book to get more views hurts everyone. Even many LIT RPG books do this. Because there's so many of them now, many smaller presses and indies are putting them into stuff like: African Studies in order to get that tag to pop orange or climb the charts.



Not all are doing this but enough are that its making it hard for me and other readers to pinpoint genre favorites.

In fact: https://portal-books.com/ are one of the good ones putting their books into categories that make sense:

Just to give an example.  I personally don't think LIT RPG is cyberpunk but if amazon would add an MMO Prose Genre tag, that would help.

Here's an example of why I think those other setups above would be good for LIT RPG:

The Example 

Trapped on a derelict space station, Jake must destroy an alien infestation—or he’ll never see his home again.

Still reeling from the death of his parents, Jake finds a doorway to an abandoned space station in his grandfather's basement. But when he walks through, he discovers he's trapped there and he’s got company.
The stations’ AI enlists Jake to reclaim the systems needed to support life , but there’s a catch—he has only eight hours to complete the task or he’ll die alone in the cold vacuum of space. With only his trusty wrecking bar, work boots, and some basic survival equipment he must defeat the horrific monsters that infest the station before his air runs out.
But aliens aren’t all he has to worry about. Hidden in the station is a message that could spell doom for Earth, and the entire universe along with it.
If you're a fan of crunchy, sci-fi LitRPG with a healthy dose of base-building, then this space survival adventure with visceral combat is the book for you.

Many elements here are what's involved in MMOs. So why not have a PROSE MMO genre separation? Many of these books want to bring in a reader most familiar with gaming tropes. Thats alright but don't do it as the expense of other genres and readers. That's all I ask. Its a fairly straightforward plea. 

The Importance of Book Blurbs


A terminal illness. A dying wish. A secret so vast, it will change humanity forever. This is a story about how something beautiful begins, how it ends, and where it picks back up. Isekai style!

formally Hyperspace. Rewritten. Re-edited. Revised. Retconned.


 The Reviews: 

One has the emotional gut reaction, the other lists some of the bare-bones about the genre that the blurb wasn't able to make clear.


Again, this is all just my POV. Take it as you will. Onward and Upward! Keep on finding books you love. :D  

Tuesday, January 21, 2020

How did this become a hit?

 This Kong guy considers himself the father of LIT RPG in America. Inflated ego much? Oh my.



Chaos Seeds

From Book 1: From the Wall Street Journal Best Selling Author, Aleron Kong, comes the 1st book in the genre defining series, The Land
The series with over 100 THOUSAND ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Reviews!
"It's like Rick and Morty were the gods of Game of Thrones!"
Audible's Customer Favorite of the Year
"Best new series I've read in YEARS!!!"
#1 Audiobook 2017
"Better than the Wheel of Time and Firefly!"
#1 in Epic Fantasy


What? How? Why? It's def. not my cup of coffee. Whatsoever. It's time to do a dive of sorts. Plus his latest book utilizes the:
To basically rise to the top of, if I had to guess, an under utilized genre arena. Plus based on what I initially see here, was it the audible version that catapulted this series to the top? It would be on a bullseye to assume:

Audible Version 

Gotta admit, that narrator is pretty animated.  

Debates 1 
Why is Kong hated? 
 
2,000 pages of useless charts and added fluff is basically his books in a nutshell. Kong is a cash grabber not a storyteller, I read his first book and it was awful not a good example of a LitRPG. Awaken Online is better in my opinion. And the MC of The Land is cringe as hell. 

  • So the basics: Good Audible Narrator
  • Abusing the KU page turn with empty stat fluff 
  • Does the standard meat and potatoes of Lit RPG but its like McDonalds. 
  • attempted to trademark "LitRPG". SO very much in the vein of the Star Justice guy, Micheal Scott Earle.  
Oh boy, yea, even from that thread above, most attribute his initial success to "over feeding" that genre and the audible narrator. Who managed to pull more people in. The way reviews describe this series, I will not touch it whatsoever. From the 5 down to the 1 stars. It's empty calories: the series.
But the audible keeps it afloat for some:

To read? No. To listen with Nick Podehl as narrator? Absolutely. 

So the series is cringe as all getup but some will give it a pass because the narration is smooth as silk. SO you can dress a pig up in a tux. Note to self, when launching Superhero Space Opera, don't call myself the Queen of Superhero Prose, that sounds just as stupid and silly as this "father" of americana LIT RPG. 

Further inspection of other threads about it:

  • Has elements of Cash Grab, with some idea of marketing to the algorithm, with some grifting and griefing of customers who disagree with him. 
  • He doesnt really use his status to help find other LIT RPG stuff worth people's time. 
  • Using his superfans as attack dogs (That sounds familiar.) LKH syndrome/comic book land debates.
Another Gem:

Please Fans, no bulli and leaving bad reviews. 

So....you have all this revenue from the audible versions which apparently snake charm people into keeping your series above water and funded....but yet, your like, "No bad reviews pls." Damn.  Plus it would appear that he had a pretty nice dayjob as a doctor so whatever he made from book selling was pretty much gravy. 

(So why not use your resources to promote things you enjoy Mr. Kong? Just wondering. Genuinely, cause if I was that big in my genre, id be bringing up my favorites all the time.) 

Cause with today's society there's so much navel gazing that maybe he's just too wrapped up in just what's in front of him to notice.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/aleron-kong-55455970  

Yep, has Doctor experience.

But one thing is clear: He knows how to market himself and his books for the greatest effect he can get. Love him, hate him or don't care about him? He still managed to hit on all cylinders to get his books out there.

https://www.patreon.com/AleronKong 
https://www.fantasticfiction.com/k/aleron-kong/ 
https://www.instagram.com/litrpgbooks/?hl=en 
Kong on LIT RPG popularity 
www.LitRPG.com/store  
https://www.litrpg.com/ 

Since he was making bank, so was amazon, so it ended up supporting him even more. Because you know amazon made a nice little bundle from his audibles and books.(its not a knock, just basic economics guesswork)

So the other big things I get from all of this, try to pre-plan your book launches as much as possible, build an audience, strike when the iron is hot, get some basic marketing experience under your belt, plan for success. (even if his ego gets in the way, he did plan for that, from the looks of it). But try to temper all of that with as much good will as you can. Imho. Cause even after my series launches, Ill never stop finding books to bring to the surface. So we can all enjoy.

Edit: I will give him credit, he does use his main site to promote other work he likes. I still think its silly to try to trademark LIT RPG or call yourself X of Genre. That's just my personal input. So he does try to use some of his own coat tails to help others. So that does put a feather in his cap. In my estimation.

Either way, he is a pretty busy topic:


Kong, all across reddit. 

Monday, January 20, 2020

An observation:

Someone Else is in the same Boat.

My god, so it really is something that underpins many genres, not just the ones I love.  My series is in the passion category. Ill still invest in the covers and editing when I get to that bridge but for me, I'll always have my main job. Ill write for myself and whatever readers I pick up along the way. But I can see why this is so pervasive in many corners of trad and indie.

Honestly, even the LIT RPG I like is mostly more space opera tropes I can't get enough of. TO see whats out there in the Great Void.

There are three worlds:
  • Writing as an art - Tolkein esc grand fantasy with beautiful words. More traditional writing and large publisher stuff. These people love writing to craft something special. But, they rarely make a living on that type of work.
  • Writing as a form of expression - Telling the story you want to tell regardless of how beautiful it might be. Early LitRPG, the best LitRPG, as far as I'm concerned.
  • Writing as a business - Writing to earn money. New LitRPG. A lot of cross over from traditional fantasy writers who want to make a living. Theres also a bunch of people from the romance genres writing wish fulfillment and harem stuff.


Yea, the endless battle of "do what you love" vs gotta make that Money for bills and everything else.

Now I must do battle between past and present tense flubs in my own series. I noticed it yesterday and was like, "Shhh, be very very quiet, I'm hunting noob mistakes." XD

Still on a quest for a hub of superhero prose stuff, maybe I should make a discord for it, hmmmm. Cause even reddit doesn't have much:

https://www.reddit.com/r/superheroprose/

Need to keep trucking, I want more superhero prose to get the limelight without being attached to trad publishing like these are:

Mainly because if people bring up superhero books, those ones are pretty much the go to stuff of many people. Because those writers got big in other areas first. It's not that these are bad books...its just that I feel the super genre is still somewhat obscure in the wider fantasy or sci fi sub-folders. Plus what is there gets buried pretty quick by "Gotta put out books to eat" so label it in any way you can to get some screen time!

A handful of more Superhero Prose I found while writing and playing "where's the tense mess-up" with my own stuff.

More Superhero Prose stuff but its More Deconstruction.

Looks like there's also an issue of "Well only X will bring in readers!" type of mindset too. Me? Ill go off on cape/spandex adventures all day. Support who I can find and hopefully tilt things over to a more optimistic bent.

Plus I think I know why some super prose series are putting harem situations in, its what's selling in most indie cross splat stuff.

Friday, January 3, 2020

Superhero Prose Books Explosion!

I went through all 400 pages of the Sub Genre of Fantasy that listed itself as Superhero. Then did the same on the sci fi side of the house (75 pages or so), here's all the various books I found that met my criteria for Superhero Prose/Novels. That and had basic editing so you don't go cross eyed in the meantime.

Here's all the various ones I've found that meet the basic setup:

  • Not Paranormal Romance
  • Not Harem or Reverse Harem
  • Not Lit RPG. (Ill make a different post about that, I have found some I've liked)

What I want to see: (Thus why I am now writing.) 

  • Decent World building
  • Alternate Earth preferably 
  • Good vs Evil, less Grey moral ambiguity
  • More Optimistic but a good portion of books I've found love the dystopia route. 
  • Teambuilding
  • Less "Protag" in school setups
So many comics have become infected by "Must get on the Watchmen" wagon and deconstruct or have"gritty" realism or moral ambiguity. You don't have to be the next watchmen or death of superman or any other "big" event. Sometimes its refreshing to find something that is strait forward good vs bad. Good is good, bad is bad and sometimes the hero or heroine can redeem some people.

Even some of the prose novels get hit with this but its not nearly as bad as Tom King. Or Bendis. Don't go full Tom King. Its not healthy.  

Good doesnt have to mean soft either. I hope when I get my series done, I can provide someone else with just as much fun as I've had writing it.

Here's all the superhero prose book lists I put together in one spot. I hope they bring enjoyment to people. :D There are repeats because some series I've been following for a while.